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The Old Testament shows an angry God who punishes the people for disobeying them. For a while now I have been trying to wrap my head around this angry God and why He did what He did. I often wondered if the Old Testament God was hijacked by Satan as back then he had the keys to death and hell. Even in Job, Satan and the Sons of Might had the power to blow wind and send fire from heaven killing many.
Tonight I want to go over reasoning behind God’s wrath where theologians explain the purpose and propose another theory that Satan could have come and tricked mankind instead thus theorizing that the Angry God had a right to be.
- The Fall of Adam and Eve (Genesis 3)
- Reason for Anger: Disobedience by eating the forbidden fruit.
- Punishment: Expulsion from the Garden of Eden, introduction of pain in childbirth, and toil in labor.
There wasn’t anger here. God was disappointed and had to punish Adam and Eve for disobeying a direct order. Many look at this moment as unfair because why bother put temptation in the garden?
Many interpretations say this was the plan all along. Eventually give them the knowledge at a later time. A test of patience. To test if Adam and Eve would eventually succumb to temptation. We know that this decision changed everything for the worse. Ever since, there has been no peace. I don’t buy it.
That explanation doesn’t include Satan as a serpent who deceived them. Take the devil out of the picture and perhaps they would not have touched it for a long time. Thus free will and the idea that it was given with the unfortunate event of fallen angels.
God created Adam and Eve on the 6th day. The 7th day he rested. Can you imagine the power that comes from creating an entire dimension? Why would God need rest? the Bible says God is Holy which means “outside of”. I do believe he created everything with his mouth by speaking it into existence. The Bible also says nothing exists outside of him, so he must have created it all inside of whatever he is. Inward, not outward.
And if he drained a portion of his energy, he would need to recharge. This explains the day of rest. Although it’s just speculation, if I were Satan and wanted to be like the most high, I would do things outside of his view. If God went back to his dimension for rest, this would explain why Satan made his move. I would be angry, too.
- The Great Flood (Genesis 6-9)
- Reason for Anger: Widespread wickedness and corruption.
- Punishment: A global flood that destroys all life except Noah, his family, and the animals on the ark.
The Bible says all the people besides Noah’s family were evil in their heart continually. Genesis 6:5 Adonai saw that the people on earth were very wicked, that all the imaginings of their hearts were always of evil only. This could mean many things, but the dictionary says the word evil means profoundly immoral and wicked. Profoundly means extremely or greatly. Another way to phrase it is, The people of earth were extremely immorally wicked without any good in them at all.
What in the world could have happened back then that would make billions this horrible to each other? A few things come to mind. If nothing is new under the sun, then we may have had technology back then. And with technology, we could make changes to the human body through DNA. Would it be far fetched to say that the sons of might who saw the daughters of men and genetically manipulated their genes to remove any form of good?
Hear me out. In the 90’s, the VMAT2 protein was discovered. A leaked video of a supposed pentagon meeting with a scientist, whom could have been Dean Hamer, theorized they could create a VMAT2 virus to stop religious extremism. When the data was released to the pentagon, the room gasped. Did they gasp because of the military implications of this finding to benefit the Middle East conquest or the fact that this could be used to stop religion or the belief in God altogether?
If man with the help of technology from the sons of might were able to manipulate genes, DNA and the like to create whatever they wanted, could they have done such a thing to remove any good from our genes completely? And if there were only 8 people on earth who were not genetically modified, and you needed that blood for the coming of Jesus to atone for the hostage situation, perhaps God had no choice but to flood the entire thing. To save mankind. I would be angry, too.
- The Tower of Babel (Genesis 11)
- Reason for Anger: Human pride and attempt to build a tower to heaven.
- Punishment: Confusion of languages and scattering of people across the earth.
All throughout The Bible, the theme of a one world order is prevalent. Over and over. Each rising empire wants to control the world and place their ideas, ethos, religion and future control on others. Because they feel if they received all control, they are in favor of God.
But, the Tower of Babel wasn’t inspired for good. The Tower of Babel was built as a symbol of human pride, ambition, and rebellion against God. The tower wasn’t specified as a machine or if it reached the heavens but mimicked the ziggurats of ancient Mesopotamia’s monument, particularly the Etemenanki in Babylon which was 300 feet tall.
God had a right to be angry for they decided they were above His law. God did not physically destroy the Tower of Babel, but instead “destroyed” it by confusing the languages of the people building it, causing them to scatter and be unable to continue construction. It actually created diverse cultures and traditions which one could argue was beautiful. Scottish kilts to Russian dolls. Different dance, song and melodies. Was this such a bad thing?
I have seen that when a group of people get together, evil partakes. Like a small town compared to a big city. This question falls in the domain of population ethics, which deals with the moral problems that arise when our actions affect who and how many people are born and at what quality of life. The Bible mentioned a little leaven leaven’s the whole loaf. This means just a little evil and evil will take all with it. Angry god or sympathetic?
- Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19)
- Reason for Anger: Grave sin and moral depravity.
- Punishment: Destruction of the cities by fire and brimstone, sparing only Lot and his family.
The Bible says they committed great sin, but doesn’t give a lot of details. We know the leaders of the town showed up to Lot’s house demanding the two out of town visitors to know them. Some scholars interpret this as a violent orgy but it doesn’t say that. The Bible describes Sodom and Gomorrah as cities filled with grave sin (Genesis 18:20). Ezekiel 16:49-50 provides further insight, stating that the sins of Sodom included pride, gluttony, laziness, and neglect of the poor and needy, as well as “abominable” behavior (often interpreted as sexual immorality or idolatry). There are many passages in the Bible where the term “know them” and “enter them” refers to sex. Sodom and Gomorrah were characterized by violence, lack of hospitality, and moral depravity.
Although we can make the assumption that the cities were rotten and did not practice loving their neighbor. In the Bible, a mortal sin is a serious offense against God that is committed intentionally and with full awareness of its consequences. Mortal sins are also known as cardinal sins. A mortal sin is a grave sin that is committed with full knowledge and consent. Sodom and Gomorrah were well aware of what they were doing and had no empathy or apathy to murder and rape. Was God justified for burning them alive? Well, Lot tried to give the town his two virgin underage daughters and they refused them and wanted the angels. This is a clue these people did it all. I see no problem with god eliminating a town of pedophiles. Angry god? I would be.
- The Plagues of Egypt (Exodus 7-12)
- Reason for Anger: Pharaoh’s refusal to let the Israelites go.
- Punishment: Ten plagues, including water turning to blood, frogs, lice, flies, livestock disease, boils, hail, locusts, darkness, and the death of the firstborn.
The children of Israel was not living in the harsh conditions that we are told under Egypt. They were living under socialism where Pharaoh paid their rent and gave them a wage. The children of Israel were not the ones in the mud building stone blocks for the pyramids. The Bible says they also had a market place where they sold goods. The problem wasn’t Israel, it was Pharaoh and his advisors. They crunched the numbers and decided that if they did not start genocide on them, Israel with 2.4 million people could rise up and take over Egypt. The plot for the extermination of the jews was in place and this is where the Synagogue cried out to the Father for help.
Pharaoh was hell bent on killing 2.4 million jews to keep his power in Egypt. God is not interested in genocide and given his promise he made to Jacob, he heard the call. God gave Pharaoh 12 chances to let them go. Moses didn’t ask for anything other than the paperwork. But since Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, he would not let them go. So God decided to harden his heart even further. This was so the children could end up with all of Egypt’s treasure. Pharaoh could have just let them go, but was too prideful and he lost all their gold, silver and livestock. The children of Israel walked out rich. Angry God? More of favor here.
- The Golden Calf (Exodus 32)
- Reason for Anger: Idolatry and worship of a golden calf.
- Punishment: Death of about 3,000 people by the Levites and a plague.
So Moses goes up to Mt. Sinai to be with God. He was there for two months and at that time God wrote 10 commandments on two tablets with his finger. God tells Moses he should go now because the children of Israel has made a new god to worship. While Moses was gone, the elders, scribes and rabbis asked Aaron when Moses is coming back. Aaron had no good answer. So, they decided Moses abandoned them and convinced Aaron, who was in command at the time, to create a new God. They formed a golden calf with all the gold they had and through a party for a peice of metal. After all of the miracles that God did like part the sea, create food from the air, water from a rock, quail when they needed meat, had a pillar in the sky during the day which covered the sun and at night where it heated up to warm them. They decide to worship an idol that can’t talk, move or do anything other than pose as a calf representing Baal and Molech. Moses came down and threw the tablets at them, melted the calf down and forced them to eat the gold. Moses made them eat the gold. Angry God? More like a frustrated God.
- Korah’s Rebellion (Numbers 16)
- Reason for Anger: Rebellion against Moses and Aaron’s leadership.
- Punishment: The earth opens and swallows the rebels, and fire consumes 250 followers.
After Moses forced them to eat the gold, killed 3,000 people who started this (that was Moses’ idea and not God) Korah, a Levite priest from the tribe of Levi, who was tasked with assisting Aaron in the tabernacle, along with 250 rebellious leaders were pissed and plotted against the priesthood for themselves. They wanted Baal and Molech and not the God that makes them eat gold, murder 3,000 of their people and dragged them out in the desert to die. So Moses decides to make a contest. Who’s God, either Jehovah or Baal would honor the incense of fire. Moses warned the people to stay back as he knew God would destroy the 250 Baal worshippers. And he did. Again, this was Moses’ idea. He didn’t ask the Lord, just like Moses didn’t ask if he should strike the rock at Horeb. He had a problem with thinking he was righteous. The earth opened up and fire from below burned the 250 rebels. Was this all God or Moses’ idea? Angry God? I think this was Moses using God’s authority and power. I am starting to see a pattern, here.
- The Spies’ Bad Report (Numbers 13-14)
- Reason for Anger: Lack of faith and refusal to enter the Promised Land.
- Punishment: Forty years of wandering in the wilderness; the entire generation dies before entering Canaan.
The Canaanites were Nephilim. Giants! Their food was already genetically modified. The grapes were the size of their fists. It took two people to carry a bundle of grapes back to give the evil report. All throughout exodus, no one was happy. They lost their gold, friends and family, their pagan traditions, cattle, sheep and oxen. They hated Moses and Aaron especially their God. They had enough hate in their heart where they could not win any war against anyone, meaning God could not help intervene if they had any unforgiveness in their hearts. If they were to win back their promised land, God knew their offspring would have to do it. And since Moses continued to disobey God, he was to die in the wilderness without seeing the promised land. How can God fulfill his promise if the people would not fight the Canaanites? Angry God or act of mercy? They would have been destroyed.
- The Bronze Serpent (Numbers 21)
- Reason for Anger: Complaining and speaking against God and Moses.
- Punishment: Venomous snakes sent among the people, causing many deaths.
This is a confusing one. The bronze serpent story is a microcosm of the entire biblical narrative. The children of Israel were complaining and mumbling about food insecurity, the heat and were starting to plan to go back to Egypt. God sent venomous snakes into the camp. Many Israelites were bitten and died as a consequence of their sin. God told Moses to create a bronze serpent. The serpent in Numbers 21 was lifted up on a pole, and those who looked at it were saved from physical death. God provides a way of salvation (the bronze serpent). Salvation requires faith and obedience (looking at the serpent). This points forward to the ultimate salvation through Jesus, who defeats sin and death once and for all.
The bronze serpent isn’t about glorifying the serpent itself—it’s about God’s power to redeem and save. It’s a reminder that even the things that seem cursed or broken can be used by God to bring healing and life. And ultimately, it points to Jesus, who took on the form of our sin and curse so that we could be saved by looking to Him in faith. It’s a story of irony, redemption, and hope. So why did God send the serpents? Sin. Even with after the Ten Commandments, manna from heaven, water from the rock at Horeb, Cattle and Sheep gone from sacrifice of sin, they continued to sin. Moses and Aaron warned them but they would not listen. They continued to break just 10 commandments. Imagine living in a camp with people, lying, stealing, killing, blaming their neighbor, cheating on each other and no one getting along. After all of the miracles, they did not even try to change their minds and ways. Angry God? This teaches us that if we continue in sin, the serpent will kill us. Angry God? It’s a bit much.
- The Sin of Achan (Joshua 7)
- Reason for Anger: Achan’s theft of devoted things from Jericho.
- Punishment: Defeat at Ai, and Achan and his family are stoned to death.
In Joshua 6, God gives the Israelites a miraculous victory over Jericho. He instructs them to march around the city for seven days, and on the seventh day, the walls collapse. The Israelites are commanded to destroy the city completely and devote everything in it to the Lord. This means: All the gold, silver, and valuable items are to be given to the Lord’s treasury. Everything else is to be destroyed. This act of devotion (or herem in Hebrew) signifies that the victory belongs entirely to God, and the spoils are His alone. After the victory at Jericho, a man named Achan disobeys God’s command. He takes some of the devoted things for himself: A beautiful robe from Babylon, Silver and Gold. Achan’s sin is not just about stealing—it’s about breaking the covenant with God. His actions show a lack of trust in God’s provision and a desire for personal gain at the expense of obedience. God decides not to bless the next war. Next, the Israelites go to attack the smaller city of Ai. They assume it will be an easy victory, but they are defeated and suffer losses. This shocks Joshua and the people, and they are filled with fear and confusion. Joshua cries out to God, asking why this happened. God reveals that the defeat is due to sin in the camp, someone has broken the covenant by taking devoted things. Until the sin is dealt with, God will not grant them victory. Angry God? It shows how one person can ruin it for everybody. Or a little leaven can leaven the entire lump.
- Uzzah and the Ark (2 Samuel 6)
- Reason for Anger: Uzzah’s unauthorized touching of the Ark of the Covenant.
- Punishment: Immediate death of Uzzah.
The Ark of the Covenant was the most sacred object in Israel. It symbolized God’s presence among His people and contained the tablets of the Ten Commandments, Aaron’s staff, and a jar of manna. At this point in Israel’s history, the Ark had been in the house of Abinadab for many years (1 Samuel 7:1-2), and King David wanted to bring it to Jerusalem to centralize worship and honor God. David and the people set out to move the Ark, but they make a critical error. Instead of carrying the Ark on poles by the Levites, as God had commanded in Exodus 25:12-15 and Numbers 4:15, they place it on a new cart pulled by oxen. This was likely influenced by the Philistines’ method of transporting the Ark (1 Samuel 6:7-8), but it directly violated God’s instructions.
As the Ark is being transported, the oxen stumble, and Uzzah, one of Abinadab’s sons, reaches out to steady the Ark to keep it from falling. When Uzzah touches the Ark, God’s anger is aroused, and Uzzah is struck dead on the spot. This seems harsh at first glance, but it underscores a crucial truth: God’s holiness must be respected. The Ark was not just a religious artifact—it was the throne of the holy God, and touching it was a violation of His explicit commands (Numbers 4:15). Angry God? They were warned that it was a very dangerous device and decided to take the easy way.
- David’s Census (2 Samuel 24; 1 Chronicles 21)
- Reason for Anger: David’s pride and unauthorized census.
- Punishment: A plague that kills 70,000 people.
At this point in David’s reign, Israel is strong and prosperous. David has achieved many military victories, and the kingdom is secure. However, pride and self-reliance begin to creep into David’s heart. Instead of relying on God, David decides to take a census of the fighting men in Israel and Judah. In Exodus 30:11-16, God had given specific instructions about taking a census. A census was not inherently wrong, but it had to be done in the right way and for the right reasons. For example, It required a ransom payment (a half-shekel per person) to remind the people that their lives belonged to God. It was to be conducted with humility and a recognition of God’s sovereignty. What follows was three years of famine, three months of fleeing from enemies and three days of plague. The law that God gave had to be followed. Consequencs had to follow otherwise, God would be unjust. Remember, the children said they would obey whatever Moses told them. That was a promise they made to Moses. God was showing what follows if the law if broken. It teaches us to rely on God and his statues or bad things happen. It was a warning about future sins of today. Because sin leads to death. He gave the law and told of the consequences of breaking them. David didn’t go to the scribes for advice. He did it on his own. Angry God? Debatable, here. If he is just, he must follow through, right? And besides, he sent his son to do away with this and the wrath that follows.
- Elijah and the Prophets of Baal (1 Kings 18)
- Reason for Anger: Worship of Baal and abandonment of God.
- Punishment: Execution of the prophets of Baal by Elijah.
This is a no brainer. In fact the story is quite funny. Elijah had a sense of humor we well. At this time, Israel is divided into two kingdoms: the northern kingdom (Israel) and the southern kingdom (Judah). The northern kingdom, under King Ahab and his wife Jezebel, has turned away from God to worship Baal, a Canaanite bull god associated with rain and fertility. This idolatry has led to widespread moral and spiritual decay.
Elijah, a prophet of God, has already announced a drought as a judgment against Israel’s sin (1 Kings 17:1). After three years of drought and famine, God sends Elijah to confront Ahab and the prophets of Baal. Elijah challenges Ahab to gather the people of Israel and the 450 prophets of Baal (and 400 prophets of Asherah, though they don’t play a major role in this story) at Mount Carmel for a dramatic test. Two bulls will be prepared for sacrifice, one for the prophets of Baal and one for Elijah. The prophets of Baal will call on their god, and Elijah will call on the Lord. The god who answers by sending fire to consume the sacrifice is the true God. Baal’s prophets wail, scream and cut themselves all night while Elijah taunts them. Where is your god? Is he relieving himself? Eventually Baal does nothing while Elijah has them poor water on the fire. God lights it up and proves he real. Elijah seizes the moment and orders the people to capture the prophets of Baal. He takes them down to the Kishon Valley and executes them, fulfilling God’s command to rid the land of idolatry (Deuteronomy 13:5). Angry God? He didn’t smote the Baal worshippers. Elijah did.
- The Exile of Israel and Judah (2 Kings 17, 25)
- Reason for Anger: Persistent idolatry and disobedience.
- Punishment: Assyrian conquest of Israel and Babylonian conquest of Judah, leading to exile.
The exiles of Israel and Judah were devastating periods in Jewish history, marked by the forced removal of the ancient Israelites from their homeland. The northern kingdom of Israel fell to the Assyrian Empire in the late 8th century BCE, resulting in the deportation and scattering of many Israelites, the “ten lost tribes.” The southern kingdom of Judah met a similar fate in the 6th century BCE when the Babylonian Empire conquered Jerusalem, destroyed the First Temple, and exiled many Judeans to Babylon. These events, particularly the Babylonian Exile, profoundly impacted Jewish identity, leading to a greater emphasis on the Torah, the development of new religious expressions like synagogues, and a stronger sense of community. Though traumatic, the exile also fostered spiritual growth and ultimately paved the way for the return to Judah and the rebuilding of the Temple. Angry God? After all he did, they couldn’t follow 10 commandments and eventually went back to worshipping Egypt’s idols? Angry God? More like frustration.
These are the most harshest things that have ever happened to the people by God’s hands and decrees. After all he tried to do, they would not listen. They rebelled over and over and continued breaking the commandments. God originally gave them the commandments because it was a way to prove to mankind that they need Him instead of doing it on their own. People died, not because it pleased God, but their sin led to death. For the wages of sin is death. Satan would have done more damage than God did. If God didn’t protect them in the wilderness, all of them would have died at the hands of their enemies. There never would have been a promised land to begin with. God fulfilled his promise, but it wasn’t how they wanted it. The story of Exodus can be looked at several ways. When the reader is a humanitarian, they may see an angry god full of wrath and impatience. We see what we want to see in everything we read and learn. We weren’t there, so how can we form an opinion of the matter? All we have is what was written and it was just one scroll.
If we read it when we are new to Christianity, we may see a wrathful and angry God as well. Even if bad things have happened to us, we can see violence and wrath and unforgiveness. But if we look at it from God’s point of view, he gave them what they asked for. The law. They didn’t follow it. They continued practicing paganism or worshipping his adversary. They were warned what would happen but continued without hesitation. The rebelled and created their own God. They skipped rituals through impatience and just didn’t care. And Moses continued to disobey God and take matters into his own hands. Moses too has blood on it. The law was made to be broken to teach us that we could never follow anything that we are told to do. The children of Israel were used as an example of what will happen not from him but from Satan and the power he has. The wages of sin is death. We definitely learned that through Exodus.
After years of research and prayer, the God that I know is justified in all his works. Could Satan have come in at one time or another and mimicked God as the Father? It’s possible. God does not steal, kill and destroy. You can look at it many ways. You can also make justification for it if you fear the lord. I have seen Christians read the Old Testament after traveling the world and see the text different. Culture shock and learning how others live on an opposite world takes on a new perspective. When I traveled to India, I saw a country with no middle class. Everywhere, there were rich and poor. You either had a family with comfortable wealth or a family with nothing at all. The system was set up this way. Your mind races as to the why and how. The people you meet are friendly and curious about you. I do believe if you are to be a teacher of anything, you have to travel the world and see as much diversity as you possibly can. It grounds you. Humbles you. And makes you wonder why an Angry God will send non-believers to hell for a short period until the lake of fire for eternity.
We are learning what happens when you do not punish children for disobedience. No, I am not talking about spanking, although I took many for the team, I am talking about action and reaction. Education on the reason for punishment. I am sure if I dig hard enough and use wisdom and logic, I can make justification for God and his punishment. But did he do it out of anger? When we punish children out of anger, we have learned through psychology that it creates long term scars. However, if we punish through reasoning and education, our children can still use it against us harboring hatred for the punishment. A double edged sword for anyone, even a God, where there is no true way to learn the lesson in the moment. They say time heals and eventually the child who was disciplined will understand through reasoning. Exodus was written by several authors long after the events happened. They most likely written the story using justification yet they were not there.
I believe in Christianity, not because of fear of God, rather because I have built a relationship with The Holy Ghost and what he says to me and how he treats me is totally different than this angry God that kills people by his hand. This decision to either sympathize or turn your back is a personal one. Many critical thinkers actually turn their back. I learned that the creator is the beginning and end. This means he was here before us and will be after. This makes me incredibly sad. This is evidence that God cannot end his own life and is forced to create to keep himself company. He created Eve because He alone recognized that it is not good to be alone.
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